In a fight to the death between every American president, who would win and why?
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In a fight to the death between every American president, who would win and why?
You can check the answer of the people under the question at Quora “which president would win in a knife fight“
Millard Fillmore, because everyone would forget that he was in the fight.
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Calvin Coolidge.
He’d find somewhere out of the way to sit quietly, and the others would forget about him.
At the end:
On a barren field littered with corpses in period costume, the only movement is that of a blood-drenched Jimmy Carter as he finishes beating the last of the life from Andrew Jackson.
Eventually sensing that he’s striking a corpse whose face he has reduced to a concave pulp, his blows cease. Slowly he uncurls trembling fingers, fists becoming hands again for the first time in he knows not how long. His knuckles are literally worn to the bone – white gleams under running blood. He is naked to the waist, though he doesn’t remember how, or when, and his arms are stained crimson well past his elbows.
The last of the berserker frenzy fades from his eyes, now recognizably those of a man once again for all that they’re set in a mask of clotted blood.
He tries to stand, but his knees buckle. For a time, he weeps.
Eventually he ceases, and struggles upright. He must be sure.
He begins counting…
Which is when Calvin Coolidge, face calm and still as a mill-pond, appears from behind and with a slightly fussy, efficient gesture slits Carter’s throat from ear to ear with a shaving razor.
Wearing the same mild expression, Coolidge takes a half step back and gives his rapidly-ex-sanguinating fellow one-termer a light, splay-fingered shove.
Carter pitches forward, fountaining blood from a neck cut halfway to the spine.There was more power than it seemed behind Coolidge’s elegant slice.
Carter feels the push but dies somewhere between it and the ground.
Coolidge removes his pocket-square, wipes the blood from one side of the blade, turns it, wipes the other, repeats. The blood-stained silk, released from between fingertips, flutters down to rest on the pant of a black-wool suit containing most of a leg that was once attached to James Garfield.
He holds the blade up to catch the dimming light, inspects both sides, then snaps it closed with a practiced flick and replaces the mother-of-pearl crescent to the inside his suit-coat.
His person is immaculate, clad in a grey three-piece spotless and unmarred by blood nor, somehow, dust. After a brief self-inspection and some minor straightening he checks the time on his pocket-watch, snaps it closed, and slides it back in his vest.
For the first time since the slaughter began, there is a new expression on that patrician face. Subtle and singular, it has no name. What it indicates is a mystery.
For as he gazes across the bloody field, Calvin Coolidge, last of the Presidents, does not feel moved to speak.
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Definitely Andrew Jackson!
1) Jackson got seriously gashed in the face and hand at age 14 after being snarky to a British Soldier who captured him and his older brother Robert. The boys almost starved to death while being detained, and the gash left a permanent scar on his forehead.
2) Right after his encounter with the British, he survived smallpox which killed his brother (later that same year he became an orphan at 14 after his mother died of cholera). He also survived malaria and dysentery later in life – Jackson had one badass immune system.
3) In 1806 got in a duel with Charles Dickinson (an expert marksman) who shot him in the chest, shattering two ribs and lodging a bullet close to his heart. Jackson stayed conscious long enough to shoot and kill Dickinson. The bullet wound was not operable because it was too close to his heart, so it never healed properly and caused him chronic pain for the rest of his life (and he lived another 40 years!).
Rumor has it if a Congressman who Jackson disliked came to speak with him, Jackson would purposefully shift his weight and start coughing up blood (from his bullet wound), which would immediately end the conversation (courtesy my high school AP US History teacher Dr. John Hosmer – shoutout to University High School 😉
4) In another duel with the Benton brothers in 1813, Jackson was shot in his left shoulder. He lost so much blood that he almost died and the doctors wanted to amputate his arm but he refused. “I’ll keep my arm” was the last thing he said before passing out. 34 days later, he was commanding troops on the battlefield again as part of the Creek War during the War of 1812.
5) 18 years later, the Benton brother’s bullet was still lodged in his arm and it was bothering him (now we think it may also have been poisoning him with lead). He finally had surgery to get it removed…with no anesthesia.
6) In 1835, he survived what is believed to the first assassination attempt on a US president when Richard Lawrence (unemployed British housepainter) tried to shoot him – the gun didn’t work so Lawrence pulled out a SECOND gun which also didn’t work. According to some accounts, Jackson, enraged, beat the man severely with a cane before Lawrence was detained. Keep in mind that Jackson was already 68 and pretty sickly by this point.
7) On the last day of his Presidency, apparently his main regret was that he “had been unable to shoot Henry Clay or to hang John C. Calhoun.”
Basically, the guy was a total crazy badass. Despite multiple bullet injuries (many of which never left his body) and tons of diseases, he lived to be 78 – pretty good for the 1800s.
Ethically, he was a terrible President, responsible for the brutal Trail of Tears among other horrors to America’s Native Peoples, as well as staunchly supporting slavery. Perhaps the only explanation for his cruelty and hard heart was the fact that he endured so much pain and loss himself at a young age.
His only real redeeming quality is the fact that most of his duels were fought over his wife Rachel’s honor. They were married before Rachel had technically divorced her abusive ex-husband, and thus attacks were constantly made against her and Jackson’s honor. From all accounts, Jackson loved her very dearly and would go to great lengths to defend her. She tragically died of a heart condition right after he won the presidency for the first time in 1828.
(sources – Health & Medical History , Andrew Jackson , memories of AP US History so long ago….)
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1. Abraham Lincoln – he was physically the strongest American president ever, and there are numerous stories in his biographies about how in his younger days he used to wrestle and brawl on the Frontier and up and down the Mississippi, many of them recounting feats of incredible strength and dexterity. If it’s hand fight/ MMA type brawl, he’s your man.
2. Andrew Jackson – he was a straight up stone cold killer. Guy was a fighter, as in life and death fighter in wars where he killed people, since he was a teenager. He was also a duelist – a person who fought other people in ritualized combat to the death with loaded pistols at 10 paces (and some stories have him dueling with knives). Also, to the best of my knowledge he’s the only president who actually killed other people with his own hands – others ordered actions that resulted in the deaths of others (e.g.; Washington, Grant), but Jackson’s the only one who did it himself up close and personal. If it’s a no-holds barred Purge style murder-athon, he is the one to put your money on.
Compared to those 2, Teddy Roosevelt was just some rich brat wannabe posseur. He was tough, but it was an affected and acquired toughness like that of some scions of the 1% who get into extreme sports and hire a private sensi to teach them a martial art and/or buy a dojo where they get to play at MMA.
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Either Teddy Roosevelt or Andrew Jackson, if the situation were hand to hand combat. Both men never avoided confrontation when needed. And they both certainly had the fortitude to withstand mortal combat.
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Teddy Roosevelt springs to mind. I mean this guy got shot and he finished his speech before seeking aid. Andrew Jackson also came to mind, although I don’t know too much about him, but this book also agrees.
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Andrew Jackson. I hear that he was quite the brawler back in the days
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Lincoln would have several tremendous advantages: Height, reach, wrestling skill, quick thinking. He would find a way to beat a far heavier opponent, including Theodore Roosevelt, who was quite fat by the time he got shot (which may have saved his life). TR may have had enough stamina to then deliver an hour and 45 minute speech, but he wasn’t getting punched in the face. Recall also that he lost the use of an eye while boxing. Presuming we’re getting every President with knowledge of all the others, Lincoln would know that.
Contrary to popular opinion, TR was only human. An extraordinary man in many ways, but just a man. One who concedes tremendous advantages to Lincoln.
There’s one other guy, though, who might have a chance. Bill Clinton. Okay, he d…
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Barrack Obama.
Since he is currently in office he is the chief commander of the U.S. Military. The strongest fighting entity in the world.
He could dispatch a 1st SFOD-D team to take care off all the other presidents who are hundreds of years old skeletons.
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Probably, the final two contenders would be Andrew Jackson and Teddy Roosevelt. Here’s a case for each of these men.
Andrew Jackson: Due to his involvement in the Trail of Tears and the crippling of the National Bank, Old Hickory was a controversial figure to say the least. But no matter what your opinion on him, you can’t deny that this was one tough guy. By the time he was 14 years old, Jackson’s entire family had been killed by war, disease and fallen trees, leaving the young teenager to make it in the world on his own. He became a frontier lawyer, where he made a fortune for himself. Serving as a general in the Red Stick War and later the War of 1812, he became a rockstar of sorts among Americans, and when he ran for President, he got the American people excited about voting like they never had been before. When he was President, a delusional unemployed house painter named Richard Lawrence attempted to assassinate him. After Lawrence’s two pistols misfired, Jackson jumped on top of the man, subdued him and began to beat him with his cane before his bodyguards had to pull him off of the would-be assassin. Just so we’re on the same page: Andrew Jackson’s would-be killer had to be protected. From the man he was trying to kill.
Teddy Roosevelt: It’s quite possible that Roosevelt was the manliest man of all time. During his lifetime, Roosevelt gained a reputation (rightfully so) as a rugged cowboy, who went out camping, hunting, fishing, boxing, commanding a cavalry unit in the Spanish-American War and just generally doing manly things. When he was running for election in 1912, innkeeper John Schrank shot Roosevelt. Despite the bullet in his chest, Roosevelt gave a 90-minute speech, not once acknowledging this bullet, until he agreed to go to the hospital. He was tough as nails, no doubt.
Ultimately, I feel like Jackson would win in this fight to the death, because he’d be more likely to play dirty to win (much like he did when the Supreme Court ruled against him with the Indian Removal Act).
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If they had to fight at the age when each of them was president, then Theodore Roosevelt, hands down. He was young, fit, tough, and fearless.
Most of the rest were either middle-aged or elderly while in office. Among the few who were in their forties, Clinton was out of shape, JFK was a physical wreck, and Obama is lanky and not the fighting type. Many presidents were tough adversaries, and we shouldn’t underestimate the amount of drive and resiliency required to attain the office. Few of us could do it even if we wanted to. But in physical combat, you’ve gotta go with TR.
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According to this fictitious account, Washington.
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Sarah Palin’s sosie from Iron Sky.
Because she has nukes, no brain and no shame. But then again, it is the same for le sieur Camacho. Well, he has shiny muscles and he is a porn star, so I suppose he has an advantage, but one might expect Palin can remember the nukes’ code, while you should not expect that from Camacho.
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People who answered Georges Washington are victim of US propaganda. I don’t know if he was a “battle proven” soldier and a good fighter, but this man was one of the worst general ever, a traitor and a slaver. The only reason why he became President was not because he was a general, but because he really was a politician. If you are a soldier, you know that I am right, because you don’t want to fight for a boss who will always blame his soldiers for defeat.
Plus, what is the point of a Democracy if you will give the power to an Aristocracy since the begining ?
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In such a fight, most of the participants would lose before the fight even began in earnest, as they are already dead. That leaves the fight to one between Carter, GHW Bush, Bill Clinton, GW Bush, Obama, and perhaps we’ll let Trump participate. Of those half-dozen, five of them are septagenarians or older.
This gives a clear advantage to Barack Obama, for whom such advanced age is still more than a decade away.
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Hand-to-hand?
George Washington was a man of prodigious strength and size who could crush walnuts in his bare hands.
Andrew Jackson had experience actually killing people.
Teddy Roosevelt was a boxer.
But I nominate Gerry Ford, who could have played professional football and there ain’t many of them
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Jackson for sure! He spat in the face of British soldiers when he was 13 years old! He was the scrappiest scrap and always stayed fit. Truman was a bumbling dimwit who dropped the bomb based on nothing but conjecture. TRoosevelt was fierce but let himself go with age and, by the time he was president, couldn’t have put up much of a fight. Lincoln didn’t have the savagery in him, having never fought a war. Taylor, Polk, and Eisenhower all serious dark horse candidates for the soul survivor, but money on Jackson. He killed men in war, but many of these contenders did. He killed men in duels because he was a BOSS. Jackson takes them all down!
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Barak obama. He would call everyone a racist and Eric holder would file so many lawsuits inciting a bunch of white men were trying to kill a black man…and while the judicial system prepared for the president to be in court…all the other presidents would die from old age.
And Obama would eat all the candy
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Whoever still had Secret Service protection. Because duh.
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So many choices I think Ike, Andrew Jackson and TDR would be at the top of the list. Jackson was in several duels and had his skull dented by a British saber and he almost killed the guy who tried to assassinate him with his bare hands.
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Andrew Jackson is the only person to have killed anyone in a duel, so I’d have to go with him. He was also a war hero and Commander, as well as the biggest psycho next to Lincoln, who was also a veteran– as well as likewise a complete circus freak; but Lincoln chickened out of a duel once, so I’d have to go with Jackson.
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/andrew-jackson-kills-charles-dickinson-in-duel
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Teddy wins. I wouldn’t be surprised if bush w could throw down also but he’d be at a size disadvantage. Obama may have some hand coordination. Theodore beats the shit out of all of them. William McKinley was probably tough in his prime. If they are all in their prime. Maybe Abe would be the only one to beat teddy sometimes just from his height and reach advantage and by the leverage he would have.
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Obama, clearly. 41 US Presidents are ALREADY dead. That leaves Clinton, Bush II, Obama, and Trump. Clinton has heart issues, Bush II is a weakling, and Trump is a senile, insane, old tub of lard. Obama would kick their asses in a walk.
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Obviously, Barack Obama. Just one look at his cool calm demeanor, the crease of his pants, and the arc of his basketball, and opponents routinely shrink back in fear. He destroys whole continents with a single hashtag, and armies quake at the sight of his teleprompter.
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Richard Nixon.
Why? Because he’d cheat. Knife fight at dawn? Fine, but he’d bring a pistol.
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George W. Bush, obviously.
As the fighting begins, Bush wets himself, runs away and hides. As the other presidents fight it out, the victor would be Andrew Jackson. Jackson would then have a giant victory party, drink a bit too much and pass out. Bush would see his opportunity, defeat a sleeping Jackson and then declare major combat operations over. Mission accomplished!
Then, of course, he would proceed to ruin the economy.
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Are they all fighting at once? Are they at the age they were during their presidency? If so, then I’m guessing that Judo student and boxer Teddy Roosevelt would be busily knocking down all his opponents, but refusing to kick them when they were down. He did hunt, so maybe he would be able to kill them off. Definitely a tough guy. While he was busy honorably warning and engaging each combatant, Nixon would be sneaking around stabbing as many people in the back as he could, with the knife he’d smuggled in. He was never big on following the rules. Or perhaps Reagan gave it to him in exchange for helping him look good to the spectators. Ronnie had a history of giving arms to bad people. Jackson would be combative and fiery until Taft sat on him. President Obama would be imploring them all to “Just get along”. Ultimately I think Lincoln might prevail. He had ‘wrassled’ quite a bit in his youth, and could probably use little Jimmy Madison as a weapon.
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Taft. All he’d needed to do was roll over his opponent!
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It would come down to a fight between Teddy Roosevelt and Andrew Jackson. I would have to give it to TR on this one. Teddy Roosevelt was born a weak, sickly child and worked hard to become the toughest manly man of all time. He went on to lead the rough riders through hell and back! He was shot in the chest, finished delivering a speach, and lived the rest of his life with a bullet in his chest! Teddy Roosevelt was a huge man, self made through hours of boxing and weighlifting, Andrew Jackson is a badass in his own right, but TR would be my pick in a fight.
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Im probably wrong not being farmilar with every single president, but I’d place money on andrew jackson.
Reasoning:
he did pretty well about comming out on top in duels.
And he was a massive asshole so he’s likely to play dirty to win and have little reserve about putting foot to ass.
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President Lincoln would destroy all comers. It would be like putting a child in with a bear.
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What purpose is served by asking such a ridiculous question? And what parameters of a scenario can one use to answer it? Are there teams? Perhaps Republicans against Democrats (and divide the Whigs and Federalists as you will)? Is this a one-on-one elimination tournament? If you really cared about an answer (and I can’t see why anyone would) these questions alter the answer. Some of our Presidents had combat experience (George Washington, Andy Jackson, US Grant, Teddy Roosevelt, Harry Truman, George HW Bush, some others from the 19th century wars with the “Indians”, and others were Civil War veterans). Some were really good at organizing teams…one can conceive that FDR might organize a team that would even let someone crippled by polio “win”.
What weapons are allowed? Can George HW Bush use his WW II warplane? Are the presidents restricted to the personal arms of their era? That gives 20th or 21st century presidents a big advantage. FDR can win from his wheelchair with a Thompson submachine gun.
See how ridiculous this is?
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Last man standing I don’t know, but my Elite Eight would be Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, Taft, LBJ, James Madison, and Gerald Ford as a wildcard underdog. The opening bout William (Big Lub)Taft vs. James (Lil Jimmy) Madison. Your midcard Theodore (The Rough Rider) Roosevelt vs Abraham ( The Honest One) Lincoln. Next is Lyndon (LBJ) Johnson vs. Gerald ( Mr. Nice Guy) Ford. And now for your main event fight. Readers of the Quara are you ready?!! Then LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!! Coming in at 6’1 wearing the indigo and white trunks weighing 140 lbs. He hails from “The Carolina’s”, The 7th President of these United States, Andrew (Old Hickory) Jackson! And his opponent… Coming in 6’2 wearing the white and red trunks weighing 200 lbs. He hails Westmoreland County, Va, the 1st President of these United States, The “American Cincinnatus” George Washington! Ok you both know the rules and the Constitution. LETS GET IT ON!!
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In terms of fighting ability, Andrew Jackson would be the hands-down winner. His bravery and exploits as a warrior are the stuff of legend.
Andrew Jackson was also the best president this country ever had, as he was the least liberal. Rather than seeing average Americans as a group to take advantage of and exploit the way liberalism does, Jackson famously declared that it is not the purpose of government to erase or aggravate the natural inequalities existing between us.
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I think of three:
Teddy Roosevelt… the Rough Rider… shot in the chest and *then* delivered a speech.
Andrew Jackson… shot in the chest during a duel, misfired, recocked, and shot his opponent dead. (Not honorable, but we’re talking toughness, not honor, here.)
Abe Lincoln… big guy, and a champion of bare-hand, down-in-the-dirt wrestling in Frontier America.
I think the answer depends on the terms of the fight. If it’s hand-to-hand, I’ve got to think Lincoln is unstoppable. Single elimination dueling? Jackson. (He won 100 duels.) Otherwise, I’d bet on Teddy. “Bully!”
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George Washington, not only was he big and extremely strong and a master swordsman as well as a great shot, he also knew how to fight and was a battle proven soldier.
Any one who relishes the sound of bullets flying by his head would be a true adversary indeed.
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Ronald Reagan and all the presidents before Jimmy Carter are already dead. Carter is 91 years old and has cancer, so I doubt he’d do well. The Bushes would be distracted by protecting each other, so they wouldn’t be likely to inflict much damage on anyone else. Bill Clinton would hold his own for a while, but he’s 69 years old now. By process of elimination, Barack Obama.
But if you mean a fight between all of them when they were in the prime of their lives, the smart money’s on the Great Emancipator.
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My money is on presidents who used to be in the military, or do sports . So this eliminates Trump, Obama,FDR and a majority of the other presidents. After a while I feel like Andrew Jackson and Ted Roosevelt would be the last ones of the field. As the two badass presidents stare each other down, another man emerges. Howard Taft….it’s obvious who wins
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I’m yer huckleberry.
Abraham Lincoln.
Grew up tough. Great with an ax, worked flatboats down the Mississippi, known for his wrestling prowess.
Not even Chuck Norris will mess with him.
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I am going to tackle this as if the following situation has occurred:
Somehow, instantly, these guys find themselves in a room.
They all have the bodies identical to what they had when they were 35. I just say this to make the game level
They have their full memories from either this point in time or when they died, plus knowledge on the careers of presidents after them.
They’ve been told that if they don’t start fighting each other after 30 minutes, gunman will start murdering all of them. They can talk to one another for those first thirty minutes and try to make alliances and NAPs.
Furthermore, if more than three minutes elapse since the most recent presidential death or the start of the game, they all die.
Since they have time to make truces you probably will find that the presidents from similar time periods and the same party will form alliances , later presidents from different parties though are more likely to cross the aisle (political divisiveness has gone down over time).
With that being said, even though I think Obama is the first causality , I’d expect tremendous unity in the presidents between Kennedy and Bush Jr. With this large of a group, I’d expect them to be the last remaining (some will die until they are the last remaining though). Most of them were quiet feeble in there youths compared to others (look at old photos of either Bush). So I think it comes down to Lyndon B. Johnson, Reagan, and Clinton. If it was just those three, I’d give the win to Johnson but in this Battle Royale I’d expect Johnson to have sustained a lot of injuries by the time our current era of presidents become the last remaining group; I’d expect his kill count to be terrifying. So I’m stuck, Clinton or Reagan? I think because of his likeability and physique, Reagan gets to the end with few injuries while Clinton has moderate to severe. So as much as I didn’t want it to be, I gotta say Reagan wins.
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It’s almost certainly either George W. Bush or Barack Obama. Most of the others have lost already.
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Teddy Roosevelt.
Besides being one of the Rough Riders and winning a Medal of Honor Citation for gallantry in battle, Teddy Roosevelt has the distinction of having been shot in the chest and ignoring it until he had completed his 90 minute speech.
Roosevelt’s speech notes were in his chest pocket when he got shot. He pulled the bloody and penetrated notes out of his pocket and began the speech with:
“Friends, I shall ask you to be as quiet as possible. I don’t know whether you fully understand that I have just been shot.”
As blood stained his shirt and vest he continued:
“It takes more than that to kill a bull moose. Fortunately I had my manuscript, so you see I was going to make a long speech, and there is a bullet—there is where the bullet went through—and it probably saved me from it going into my heart. The bullet is in me now, so that I cannot make a very long speech, but I will try my best.”
Bring on the President that was tougher than Teddy.
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Assuming we’re talking about each man in his prime, here’s what we’ve got:
Washington was tall, strong, determined and used to standing and fighting in the face of enormous odds and adversity.
Jefferson was tough but very cerebral and used to being pampered.
Jackson was wiry, fiery, mean as a honey badger and while he was president walked up to a guy who had a pair of jammed but loaded pistols trained on him and nearly beat the guy to death with a cane.
William Henry Harrison exulted in facing down physical adversity, but a habit of overestimating himself and not coming in out of the cold ultimately did him in.
Polk was a barbarian warlord with little in the way of interpersonal compassion, but more adept at giving orders than carrying out operations.
Lincoln probably had greater physical strength than any of his colleagues and certainly the greatest reach.
Grant was a brick, studied at West Point, but never was one to pay much attention to detail; probably easy to surprise one-on-one.
Chester Arthur was enormous and overwhelming, but probably soft.
Teddy Roosevelt was tough as nails; tougher, probably; knocked men on their asses with one punch in disputes during his time in South Dakota and Montana, and indeed continued and completed a speech in the process of being shot in the chest.
Taft was even bigger than Arthur, but probably softer and had very little sense of balance.
Harding was big, muscular, impressive in person but had little in his background to suggest he could fight.
Coolidge was from Vermont, had a talent for withstanding adversity, particularly from the weather.
Truman took over the family farm when his father died and spent ten years plowing fields steering behind a horse on foot the old fashioned way, generally turned over five acres a day – a huge expanse of ground – in all sorts of weather and had a reputation for cutting the straightest furrows in Missouri; he was also a captain in the First World War who led 150 men into battle four times, never lost either a battle or a man; a strategic genius and an outlandishly strong and fit person.
Eisenhower was another West Pointer, enormously strong and could plan move-for-move long-term better than anyone else in this club.
Kennedy survived a collision with a battleship, and managed to swim through the night pulling a wounded man about a mile-and-a-half by a belt clenched in his teeth; essentially sickly but enormously courageous and determined, a major contender in any encounter where death was an option.
Lyndon Johnson could probably have beat up Jackson one-on-one, a strategic thinker and a strong but terribly self-indulgent man.
Nixon was mean, smart and determined, but he wasted a lot of time sulking.
Gerald Ford was a football player and as well coordinated as any of his colleagues, but no match for Lincoln, TR, or Truman’s physical strength and not on a strategic or intellectual par with most of the people on this list.
I think those are all the contenders, and given what we know about them and what they were able to pull off in their lifetimes, the most formidable appear to be the Rough Rider and Truman, the ultimate conqueror of Europe and Asia. On balance, although he was smaller, Truman would probably make up in speed and strength what he may have lacked in sheer mass. My speculative judgment goes to president #33.
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I would go with George Washington, the first President. Not Roosevelt.
He survived the Revolutionary War. One Indian Chief swore that he had shot George Washington 8 times with a pistol at point blank range in one battle. There were holes but not one reached George’s body. In a battle he might have three horses shot from beneath him.
– Leon
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Andrew Jackson-
A 67 year old Andrew Jackson was attacked on the steps of the Capitol building. The assailant fired his pistol but the powder failed to ignite. He attempted to fire a second pistol, but that too misfired. An unshaken Andrew Jackson then proceeded to savagely beat his attacker with a cane.
Pretty badass.
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Being a “Theodore Roosevelt Republican”, that “damned Cowboy”, I have never given up on my political hero and would always pick him in a fight! Read his history.
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Hard to say with any accuracy obviously. Some of the older presidents despite being physically intimidating in their day would probably not hold up against modern day nutrition, size, training and evolution. Even 30 years brings
Think about how much change 100 years means in human progress. For instance Johnny Weissmuller won the olympics in the 100m freestyle in 1924 and 1928 (he won 5 gold medals) because of his physique played Tarzan in many movies in the 30’s and 40’s. That being said the average female high school sophomore swimmer can beat him less than 100 years later. In the 80’s every member of my highschool swim team could beat him, that’s 60 years from fastest in the world to not even close to competitive in high school. As another example the average NFL offensive lineman has grown by more than 50lbs in the last 30-40 years.
What’s the point you ask? Well I was initially tempted to say Honest Abe or Teddy Roosevelt or perhaps Stonewall Jackson but all of them lived more than 100 years ago. Washington who was a giant in his day would be a small point guard in the NBA now. Daniel Boone is another prime example, in the days before we had access to all the nutrition possible Daniel Boone was considered a bear of a man and in modern times it was supposed he was 6’4″ tall but it turns out he was actually 5’8″. Truman is a good choice he had a serious hard work childhood. Plowing fields manually builds lots of muscle in a way few athletic regimens could duplicate but he was 21 in 1905. I’m not sure his physical stature would have held up well 100 years later.
Another example this time with pictures. This is hollywood’s super fit actor to play spartacus in 1960: 5’6″ – 5’9″ depending on who you believe.
current spartacus below (and how easily could I have used Arnold as Conan to show the differences between 60’s and 80’s musculature of movie stars) he’s 6’2″ and much more muscular which gets more difficult with height.
At the end of the day a more modern era President might be the right answer. George Bush senior (6’2″ played college sports, youngest fighter pilot shot down in ww2, head of the CIA), Ronald Reagan was 6’1″, captain of the swim team, and played college football, he also spent 8 years in the air force during ww2. Gerald Ford was 6’1″ 195 and played college major football (michigan) as both a center and a linebacker and was considered a star and was offered NFL contracts from both Detroit and Green Bay. Johnson actually appears to have been the most physically intimidating 6’3″ 200 lbs but he seemed to have been somewhat uncoordinated. Kennedy was clearly pretty tenacious and in great shape while in the military though he suffered from health issues his whole life and wasn’t overly big (175 lbs) he did drag a wounded sailor more than 1.5 miles through the ocean after his PT boat was rammed and sunk by a japanese destroyer. Obama though not as big as many of the previous presidents might be the most athletic while in office. At 6’1″ and 176 he’s not huge but he’s probably got one of the lowest BMI’s of any president and he has the most advantage in terms of when he was born.
I think all things considered my money might be on Ford. Originally I thought Teddy Roosevelt who was clearly a very tough man, but on further consideration a 5’10” asthmatic born in 1858 would likely not have stood a chance when pitted against more than 100 years of development in terms of human physiology, training and nutrition. Gerald Ford or Obama would probably easily take him apart as athletic prowess has made such substantial leaps in the last 100 years.
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Warren Harding. He’d have bribed the officials on hand to make sure the fight was fair.
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Here’s an infograph that answers that very question by providing each president’s height, weight, military experience, and special abilities (pain tolerance, fight training, and, in Teddy Roosevelt’s case, the ability to give a 90-minute speech after being shot).
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Tricky Dickie, for sure! Nasty as they come, mean as the day is long. Respect!
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Obviously Obama because anyone who touched him would cause a riot to break out(See Ferguson,Mo) and the rioters would do his work for him.
(Joke answer)
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Bill Clinton, of course. If he can survive being married to Hillary as long as he has, especially given that he routinely cheats on her, he can survive ANYTHING.
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I think the finalists would be Andrew Jackson and Theodore Roosevelt.
Jackson fought in over a dozen duels and once beat his would-be assassin so badly, Davy-effing-Crockett had to peel the president off of his attacker. Apparently in his latter days, he would rattle when he breathed (so he and some of his family claimed, probably facetiously) because he’d been shot in so many duels. He led the successful defense of New Orleans during the War of 1812, inflicting massive casualties to the British invaders, personally beating back elements of the 93rd Highlander Infantry Regiment, killing three senior generals, and ejecting all British forces from Louisiana. And then a whole lot of bad shit, much involving forced relocations and martial law… But to say the least, the man was strong and not afraid of fighting.
Edward Percy Moran envisioned the man in the thick of the action. Which, based on what we know about the man, is not outside the realm of reasonable possibility.
Teddy Roosevelt was cut from a similarly tough cloth. He beat asthma (which is nonsense, he grew out of his asthma) with the power of gymnastics and outdoorsmanship. He was a boxer at Harvard and was on the rowing team. He was a soldier and an explorer. The man was essentially a moose given human form and a walrus moustache.
I think these two would beat themselves bloody but at the end of the day, it would be Thor vs. Hulk. No winner, just “ugh, what’s the point anymore?”
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Tie between Theodore Roosevelt, whose mother was Martha Stewart, and Abraham Lincoln who was known for his strength and audacity after winning a wrestling match with the renowned leader of a group of ruffians known as “the Clary’s Grove boys.
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I’m going to say Obama, and I have a good reason. My first inclination was Jackson, he was tough as nails, but he was 62 when he became president, had a bullet in his chest and was a little crippled. So, my assumption is that the question is what president would win in the age and condition they were in as President. So age needs to be a factor. 62 in the 1800s is really old. McCain was a badass, but Obama would beat him up toe to toe right now. So the youngest presidents were TR, JFK, Clinton, Bush and Obama.
Bush was a cheerleader, a drunk and a Coke head, and he was a CT yuppy with generations of having everything handed to him. He’s the guy that has 4 people hold someone and he comes up and punches him and hurts his hand.
Clinton is a lover not a fighter.
JFK was pretty crippled by the time he became president. And also a lover not a fighter for the most part.
Roosevelt is a tough match up. But, he was a wuss when he was little and forced himself into being tough. Some of those stories may have been politically generated. Obama is not known for his toughness but he’s pretty athletic, in decent shape and may or may not have sold weed, which could’ve lead to a fight here and there. Roosevelt knocked people out with one punch, we don’t know how he’d do if he doesn’t land that punch. Obama would probably be too quick for him. Plus, I’m sure every President is taught the best self defense methods currently known for worst case scenarios so he has more modern fighting methods.
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Barack Obama. Definitely. Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush are elderly and cannot respond quickly. Plus, Jimmy Carter is in ill health. George W. Bush has a lifetime of alcohol abuse to weaken his survival ability. Bill Clinton is also getting on in years and is a well-known McDonald’s addict. Donald Trump, while elderly and insane, is not yet President, so he doesn’t count. And all the other Presidents are already dead.
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If we could nominate vice Presidents, then obviously Aaron Burr takes the cake as he literally killed someone in a duel 😉 and it’s someone that’s on the US dollar bill no less.
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If its a group fight free for all, I go with Jimmy Carter – he is so pathetic that nobody would fight him (it would be like fighting a girl for most of them) and who ever was left – TR, Truman, Jackson or Bush (the Secret Service say he was the most fit president EVER) – they would refuse to fight him on grounds its not right to pick on the feeble minded.
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I think Bill Clinton, he would talk everyone to death.
On the other hand Obama is a total snake and would spend a lot of effort stabbing people in the back.
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A fight to the death… well, the 38 who are already dead have lost before the fight’s begun, and Carter and Bush I are too elderly. Perhaps Clinton too. So really it’s a fight between Bush II and Obama.
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Between every American president? How does that work?
How about select one on one matchups?
Are you familiar with ‘Epic Rap Battles of History?’
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If you mean no weapons, then Ape Lincoln, he was a monster, he even looked like Frankenstein.
If you mean with their favored weapon, then it would be George H.W. Bush, the fighter-pilot… or maybe his son, who had no experience but a better jet.
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Elliot Maggin shows an impressive amount of knowledge. I’ll add a few points. Theodore Roosevelt is in the running because in addition to what Elliot points out, he was a decent but not great lightweight boxer while at Harvard. Abraham Lincoln, a tough young man in small- town Illinois, and tall and strong, was known to be an outstanding wrestler. But Gerald Ford would be the toughest. He was an excellent football player at a major football school, University of Michigan, where he was team MVP, made the college all-star game, and was offered a professional contract. That makes him an elite athlete in a sport that makes use of physical strength. He was one of thousands to be at that level, and there is no evidence that any other president was that extraordinary.
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Let’s assume that we’re talking about bare hand combat and everyone is the same age (say, 35). Add these assumptions:
* An ex-soldier trumps a president without any military experience.
* A career soldier trumps a guy who got drafted or mobilized in wartime (wartime soldiers don’t get nearly as much physical training before they are sent off to fight.) I’d add a requirement that a grunt or a NCO trumps a commissioned officer, but that would be moot since all presidents with military backgrounds were commissioned officers.
* In a fight between two ex-soldiers, advantage lies with a taller, bigger president (if they are both reasonably fit, taller is bigger is stronger.)
First two rules limit the list of candidates to 4 names. 3 of them are all 19th century presidents (Harrison, Taylor, Grant) and all of them were 5’8″. The remaining guy was 5’10.5″ – Dwight Eisenhower. He had a number of other things going for him, e.g. he was a known boxer.
If rule #2 is relaxed, there’s one other promising candidate. Bush Senior started off as an ensign and he was a navy pilot (not the most physically demanding role), but he was almost 4″ taller and probably 20 lb heavier than Eisenhower when both were in their prime.
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If we make it more more specific and ask which US president would be able to kill all the others, under the following. Hand to hand, in a steel cage match, if they were all at their healthiest and most powerful point in their lives. (Which doesn’t necessarily mean at their most tenacious and experienced point.)
Rather than having them all in the steel cage at once, say a theoretical round-robin where each fights all the rest one at a time, in some separate situation where none of the other fights happened (ignoring wounds, strategy and tactics learned in the other fights, and so on) Wow, that’s a huge cluster of organising just how the fights work. Okay, put them all in the cage at once. Who knows who’d win. Because on any given day, any football team can beat any other. Which is to say, there are a lot of factors.
On the other hand, if the question is which president is the most badaz, there’s a lot of contenders that are dead. Difficult to tell. If we limit that to the ones that are alive, obviously it self-narrows it down to WJ Clinton and GW Bush. Both are sneaky tricky ones, so that’s kind of also a draw there. Although given the ranching and so on, versus the womanizing etc, the nod probably goes more towards that direction.
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Jackson, Grant, Washington, Mckinley, Harrison, Kennedy, and Teddy Roosevelt all had significant and know weapons skills due to their military service in actually combat poisons at one point or another. Most of the first half of our Presidents had at least some swordsmanship training due to either being in the upper classes or military service.
Most of the Presidents have military service, I’ll put a list as a comment if anyone cares to view it.
All of them received at least minimal combat and weapons training some way more than others, and could be competitive.
Teddy, Eisenhower, Ford, Lincoln, Jackson and Washington were all known to be proficient in some form of hand to hand combat, either grappling/wrestling or boxing.
We know for a fact that Jackson, Washington and Kennedy personally killed people, and it is likely that Teddy did as well.
Lincoln and Jackson are known to have actually fought duals. Lincoln’s was with calvary broadswords (3foot blades on a 20lbs curved double edged slashing sword, a terrifying weapon), his opponent was a 5’6″ man who basically peed himself after a few blows and gave up. Jacksons were with pistols, in addition to some good old fashioned shootouts. He was hit several times and is the only President to have killed somebody in a non official capacity, and the only President who would likely have been charged with murder if we could go back. he had one bullet removed 20 years after the fact, returning it to the his cabinet official who had shot him.
Jackson also is the only President to have stopped his own assassination attempt. As he was leaving the funeral of a friend, an assasin (convinced he was the rightful heir to the British crown and that it was somehow Jacksons fault he couldn’t take his rightful place, the man was nuts) stepped out and fired two pistols, both misfired, at which point Jackson beat him to a pulp with a cane until Congressman Davy Crockett pinned the assassin down (seriously, this is a true story.)
Ultimately, I’d have to go with:
1.)Jackson for sheer ferocity, as well as skill and cunning (he was also a scout/spy/messenger during the revolution, at one point destroying a British companies food supply with a mixture of snakes and fire, and was possibly [albiat very inconclusively] involved in the assassination of a tory spy and a British Major).
Runners up would be, in no particular order:
2.)Lincoln, for size and skill (although he did not enjoy violence, he knew it could be necessary)
3.)Washington, again for skill and cunning (to a small extent size, but he had nothing on Lincoln in that area)
4.)Teddy Roosevelt, Ferocity and skill
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I’d say the main contenders would be Teddy Roosevelt, Andrew Jackson, and Abe Lincoln. I see some people saying Gerald Ford just because he was a good football player… well, being strong and athletic doesn’t necessarily mean you can fight. It’s about technique and experience, which the other three certainly had by all accounts.
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My money would be on Andrew Jackson. In 1806, future President Andrew Jackson kills a man who accused him of cheating on a horse race bet and then insulted his wife, Rachel.
Contemporaries described Jackson, who had already served in Tennessee’s Senate and was practicing law at the time of the duel, as argumentative, physically violent and fond of dueling to solve conflicts. Estimates of the number of duels in which Jackson participated ranged from five to 100.
Jackson and Dickinson were rival horse breeders and southern plantation owners with a long-standing hatred of each other. Dickinson accused Jackson of reneging on a horse bet, calling Jackson a coward and an equivocator. Dickinson also called Rachel Jackson a bigamist. (Rachel had married Jackson not knowing her first husband had failed to finalize their divorce.) After the insult to Rachel and a statement published in the National Review in which Dickinson called Jackson a worthless scoundrel and, again, a coward, Jackson challenged Dickinson to a duel.
On May 30, 1806, Jackson and Dickinson met at Harrison’s Mills on the Red River in Logan, Kentucky . At the first signal from their seconds, Dickinson fired. Jackson received Dickinson’s first bullet in the chest next to his heart. Jackson put his hand over the wound to staunch the flow of blood and stayed standing long enough to fire his gun. Dickinson’s seconds claimed Jackson’s first shot misfired, which would have meant the duel was over, but, in a breach of etiquette, Jackson re-cocked the gun and shot again, this time killing his opponent. Although Jackson recovered, he suffered chronic pain from the wound for the remainder of his life.
Jackson was not prosecuted for murder, and the duel had very little effect on his successful campaign for the presidency in 1829. Many American men in the early 1800s, particularly in the South, viewed dueling as a time-honored tradition. In 1804, Thomas Jefferson’s vice president Aaron Burr had also avoided murder charges after killing former Treasury secretary and founding father Alexander Hamilton in a duel. In fact, Rachel’s divorce raised more of a scandal in the press and in parlors than the killing of Dickinson.
Future president Andrew Jackson kills Charles Dickinson in a duel
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Tyler Durden : Lincoln.
Narrator : Lincoln?
Tyler Durden : Big guy, big reach. Skinny guys fight ’til they’re burger.
–Fight Club
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Barack H. Obama. He lives by the “rule of his own law”. His leadership approach is, quite frankly, only slightly short of Joseph (“Soso” ciopath) Stalin, Vladimir (the Impaler) Putin, or Adolf (the Genocidal Maniac) Hitler (The only difference is that Obama has yet to murder the Party of Opposition). He cares nothing for individual rights, the will of the people, or the U.S. Constitution. Obama has pulled his own form of the “Night of the Long Knives” on the Authority of Congress and the Will of the American People already, and publicly promised to do so again (State of the Union Address) any time he sees an opportunity.
A man with, no principles, no conscience, no respect for the rule of law, no respect or concern for human individuality, and no respect for personal freedoms is the most dangerous man on the planet. The lack of the aforementioned traits defines every serial killer and mass murder that has ever lived. The next three years could see things that people never wanted to admit could be possible in an American President. Even Harry S. Truman with the A-bomb was less of a threat to the world, at least he had principles, a noble character, and the good conscience to guide his actions.
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I’m going to go with Abraham Lincoln here.
Reach, quickness, and strength can be a huge advantage when coupled with experience; and Lincoln had all of that.
Even before politics, Lincoln was known as a highly skilled wrestler. During those days, depending on your environment, grappling and sparring could be a common way to settle minor disputes. Kind of like flipping a coin. Lincoln was well known for being one of the best around. He also was well known for being shockingly strong, probably from his days working as a woodsman and rail-splitter.
As I opened this topic I could see that Teddy Roosevelt is probably emerging as the favorite, and I get why that is: he was a tough New York cop, I believe someone already told the story of his continuing a speech after being shot in the chest, plus he was a boxer during college and kept a ring in the White House and boxed with much younger military staff up into his 50s. That’s when he was blinded during a boxing match, and kept the detached retina secret and just went about his business.
That was one tough bastard! But still, Lincoln was bigger stronger, possibly quicker. And certainly would have more moves at his disposal than the very rigid rules of boxing. Plus Lincoln was 6′4″; 220 lbs. while Roosevelt was 5′9″ 200 lbs. Lincoln could use his long arms to tag at a distance and stay out of harms way.
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Well, all but five are already dead, so they’re probably not much use in a fight. Two more are in their nineties, and as such can probably be ruled out of contention. So, really, we’re talking about the last three presidents here. Now, keeping in mind that all three of them have permanent secret service details, I think what happens is that they all get tasered by some huge guy in a black suit until they settle down. Who wins? The audience.
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George Herbert Walker Bush was head of the CIA. He could use his former intelligence community connections to order a “sanction”.
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I spent 26 years as a combat soldier and have studied the biographies of most prominent US military figures very carefully. Andrew Jackson was elected as President because he was a very skilled soldier. He was a skilled fighter, disarmed an assassin at the door of the White House, and was 6’1″.
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Andrew Jackson. He may have been a son-of-a-bitch, but he was a MEAN son-of-a-bitch. The man killed someone for bad mouthing his wife!
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At the moment I believe Barac Obama would win in a direct fist fight but only because the majority of presidents happen to be deceased.
If we are talking about in their respective primes, I agree Teddy Roosevelt would likely do very well but there are always some surprises. I also feel like Andrew Jackson might put up a fight.
Lastly if you mean at the height of their power relative to their command of the United States armed forces, I would have to put upcoming president Donald Trump just for the technical advances made every year.
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Everyone has picked the obvious answers, but if we’re talking about some kind of epic MMA tournament, there are a couple recent presidents that haven’t gotten their just due.
Jimmy Carter isn’t a big guy, but he farmed peanuts, served on a nuclear submarine and was lowered in a safety suit into a crippled nuclear reactor to help dissemble it. So not only does he have military service, but he almost certainly has superpowers. Probably not much of a killer instinct, though.
George H.W. Bush was an athlete and a naval aviator who managed to bail out of a crashing fighter plane. He’s not going to panic in a tough spot. Again, not sure if he is a closer.
That said, I don’t think this is a close contest in the end. There are some very tough men who have been president, and there will be some great fights. At the end of the day, though, there’s only one president who we know to have been freakishly strong, tall and, most important in any no-holds-barred tournament, a talented wrestler. No one is going to beat Abraham Lincoln.
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I think that Richard Nixon would win. First off he would approach to shake hands and sucker Mick them in their groin. Then poke them in their eyes. While they were helpless he would knee them in the face.
It is obvious Nixon would do anything to win!! We do not know that he and G. Gordon Kiddy toughened up together running their open palms over candle flames. Super teeth from biting open …
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I really, really hate these questions. Why in the world would American presidents, or students at Hogwarts, or the 50 United States even want to fight to the death? Even in the realm of “hypothetical questions” this is one of the most stupid.
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I’d go with possibly Andrew Jackson who was legendary for his personal bravery and ferocity–or maybe Gerald Ford, an ex-linebacker with the Wolverines.
Other ex-career soldiers (especially from the colonial and antebellum period) were certainly tough customers–so guys like Zach Taylor, Bill Henry Harrison, George Washington, and maybe Eisenhower were probably not guys to tangle with. Teddy Roosevelt was another tough cookie.
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