If you had to defend yourself with a knife against a violent dog either charging or in the process of attacking one of your own animals, how would you accomplish this? Let’s say the knife is already in your hands before the attack. What would you do?
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I’ve been in this exact situation before in the past. A pit bull had gotten ahold of a friend’s Boston terrier. She broke his back legs or back so the poor little thing couldn’t escape. She then started to slowly skin him alive ripping off his flesh. The owner was jumping up and down screaming unable to act due to fear (I’m guessing). I was in the process of fixing my bicycle tire when I heard the commotion. First, I tried hitting the pit with all 5 bundled up as one wrenches in the head. My instant on-the- scene action awakened another person in room who then started to kick the dog at same time. When I realized that was useless, I ran into kitchen to sadly only find The World’s Smallest Tiniest steak knife. Looked more like a ladies nail file but shorter lol. But I knew it would be sufficient enough to do the job since I knew right WHERE to stick it. I ran into the room and leaped across the remaining space between us and in 3 quick consecutive bursts I slammed that knife as hard as I could right into the carotid artery. It’s located slightly off to the side of the mid upper throat. Just like on humans when you check your pulse on the side of your neck. If your unsure of exact spot, don’t be shy to fish around in a stabbing fury. Within 1 min the pit was dead, and I saved the terrier. Unfortunately, since I was last on the scene and no one else was brave enough to handle the situation, the terrier later died from his injuries during surgery. Hope that answers your question. By the way, I’m a 125 pound female.
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I deal with dogs on a regular basis. Many pit bulls, or pit type breeds (bullies, whatever). They are very popular where I live. Popular with white trash, criminals, and low-lifes in general. I spray in the mouth. It chokes ’em out. I carry 2 sprays. One long range, narrow stream type, and a short range one that spreads out, like a cone. I carry combat knives too, but haven’t used them. My sprays have worked thusfar. I do not hesitate, at all, with dogs. I’ve never liked dogs. Animals are too simple for me to care about. So, since I don’t hesitate, I have an advantage over most, who try to avoid harming those “precious” canines. If I had to stab a dog, I think I would go for the neck area. Dogs have hard craniums. Maybe the belly. I don’t have a problem handling pit bulls. Everyone talks as though they are so tough, but whenever I see civilians being attacked, they perform poorly, by making dumb moves, or none at all. Trying to kick the dog (and not skilled kicks either). Pull it off them. Shit, go into the dog’s mouth if it has ahold of ya. I can’t stand aggressive dogs and shitbulls. I am big and strong though, with martial arts and fighting experience. I train with knives and sticks. These guys here saying a knife is a poor tool. Yeah, sure buddy. YOU’RE a tool. You can move a blade around, you don’t just have to puncture with a knife. Get a knife in the neck, and yank on it. Bleed that piece of shit shitbull out. Let his scumbag owner watch. I go for power shots/strikes. No multiple little “stabby stabs.” I stab deep, and then pull, or saw.
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Assuming the dog is charging, the best bet would be to hold the weapon in a hammer-fist grip in your dominant hand, and drop into a boxing stance. If possible, it would be preferable to feint in such a manner that the dog is approaching from your off-hand side. As the dog closes to within arms’ reach, swivel away from the dog on your dominant foot and attempt to grab the animal’s collar (if applicable) with your off-hand. If/when you have control over the collar, you should straighten your off-side leg with some alacrity, being very careful to maintain balance. By doing this, you should choke the dog, stun it, and throw it off balance. Immediately after doing that, you should swivel around so that you and the dog are facing the same direction, and bury the blade up to the hilt an inch or so behind the dog’s shoulder blade, which should skewer the animal’s lung straight through and potentially hit the heart. Once the blade is in, you should immediately retract it and continue stabbing in a similar location. If possible, the animal should be thrown/kicked to the ground and the animal’s stomach stabbed. If there is at all a concern the animal might get up again, its throat should be slashed.
Note: This is conjecture, I have never been in the position to need to defend myself with a knife against a dog.
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A knife will work just fine. Don’t listen to this “experts”. But first thing you need to do is a war scream, i was surrounded with a pack of wild dogs other day and didn’t cared about them, just walked straight through because i needed to go that way and few of them started to bark, in no time there were at least 10. So i became a little scared since i was surrounded but i was more angry. I made a such noise and they all suddenly stopped barking. I had a knife too, with a knife you must hold it in your dominant hand and with your other hand you must protect your throat and face, if you can’t protect your throat you are dead. Give your non dominant hand to dog and slice it through if you can’t slice stab the throat several times but you need to stab deep. An any animal will die in seconds. Those guys who say a knife won’t work did not saw an animal getting killed with a knife in their lives, i saw it, a lot. Don’t forget dogs usally all about bluff, a barking dog won’t usally bite, stand your ground, prepare for fight to death and sound like an angry animal. If a dog really wants to kill you it won’t make any noise, walk or run towards you.
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A knife in the throat works just fine. Puts the dog right down.
You can also use the knife kind of like a shield by keeping it pointed towards the dog’s mouth. The dog has to get past that sharp blade to get to your arm. And I would laugh if it tried to bite the blade.
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You speak of two different scenarios.
If a dog is going after your dog; get between them facing the aggressor. Then go to scenario two. If the aggressor is already on your dog; seize the aggressor by the nape of its neck and pull it up and away from your dog. Depending on the size of the dog you may want to clamp its jaws shut with your free hand or use the free hand under its neck and throw the dog away from you. Face up to it; almost invariably, it will run away at that point. If not go to scenario two.
If the dog is attacking you, do not use the blade of the knife. Use the hilt as a club. Even the largest dog is going to be attacking from the ground up; use your knife hilt as a hammer and your free hand as a guide to use the dog’s momentum to take it down and past you (always on your free hand side). It becomes a dance; but, the dog will very soon grow weary of it. If the dog tries to bite you below the knee don’t kick out at it. Using your hammer and free hand sweep it away each time it comes at you. Between the hammer and frustration, it will soon quit.
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I’m a 17 year old having to walk across town to get to school everyday of the week. on this certain road whenever they see me they bark. three average size dogs and like 3–4 little dogs I could just stomp or kick try to mess with me only one actually bites my calf and knees I’m not gonna let this go on nor walk a different way and be late. their owner is gonna fucking see what happens when they leave their dogs out. can someone give me advice on where to stab it with a knife and don’t say “DoNt uSe A knIfE” it’s my only option I just need to know where to keep stabbing it.
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First thing you need to do is accept the fact that your non-dominant arm is going to get pretty torn up. This is a sacrifice you need to be willing to make, and you need to be prepared for the pain so your brain doesn’t turn off.
Next, as the dog approaches turn the knife blade down in your hand. This is a more stable position and will keep you from dropping your weapon.
Brace yourself for the initial impact.
Now when the dog hits you, make sure it sinks it’s teeth into your non-dominant arm. It’s going to hurt. A lot. But it will keep the dog from going for your neck or your face, and you’ve now disabled the dog’s only offensive weapon.
Next, bring the dog in close to your center of gravity so it can’t wrestle you to the ground, and drive the blade of your knife as fast as you can, as many times as you can, into the dog’s face and neck, paying special attention to the area behind the dogs ears (corrotid) and its eyes.
Odds are you’ll hit something vital, or the dog will think better of biting you.
The important part is making sure the dog can’t get at your head or neck, and stabbing forcefully and aggressively.
With protecting your animals, the best strategy is to get the dog to attack you instead, then see above.
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I have been in this situation.
I had a kukri and hacked the attacking rottweiler to death fairly quickly. It went down with the first (lucky) swing.
With a smaller stabbing blade I am not so sure. I think you would stand a good chance of winning if physically fit but stand a good chance of getting bitten.
I would try to target the neck or face if it was moving fast, and grapple and stab it until it stopped moving.
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It’d probably haunt me for the rest of my life, but I’d likely let the dog get in really close then go for its soft underbelly. Not pleasant, but chances are, its own aggressive actions would virtually gut it……….
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I’m glad it hasn’t happened to me, but I imagine I would go for the same thing that the dog is…the throat. I believe that since I’m not an expert in or around fighting with a knife I believe that a slashing defense would be the way. I know my knife is sharp, I keep it like that. So inflicting damage while trying to dodge and run the hell away would be my choice. Cheers
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I would drop the knife and use something else.
I have had to defend myself from attacking dogs on several occasions. Before job related injuries prevented it, I ran in order to stay in shape. Many dog owners don’t confine their dogs. And many unrestrained dogs chase runners. Similarly, I rode my bicycle as my sole form of transportation for over five years. Dogs like to chase cyclists almost as much as they like to chase runners. I also lived in rural fly-over country and had dog issues there. Based on my experience, knives don’t benefit much in a dog fight. If fact, they might be a hindrance. If I had a hand-held knife, I wouldn’t use it against a dog.
Of the various times dogs charged me, two come to mind in particular.
I used to raise pygmy goats. One oh-dark thirty, mid-winter Michigan morning, I woke to the sound of goats bleating in distress. I crawled out of bed, pulled my jeans on, walked to the door where my boots were kept, while trying to shake off the grogginess of sleep and listen for sounds other than goats to figure out what was going on. I pulled my boots on sans socks and walked toward the barn looking for signs of prowlers or tweakers looking for scrap metal.
The front barn door was closed. The only other door was the small goat door on the side of the barn. It was closed too. With both doors closed, I jogged back to the front door and opened it to find a German Shepard and a rottweiler attacking a goat while the other goats had retreated to a raised platform built for them. The goat under attack had given up by the time I reached it. It was down on its knees not making a sound. Its eyes were unblinking. The other goats were making plenty of noise.
Neither dog initially paid me much attention. They were focused on their intended kill. The rottweiler had a collar and part of a lead line hanging from the collar. I reached for the shovel I kept next to the goat pen and hit the rottweiler on the back of its head. It dropped. The German-Shepard turned from the goat, faced me, and charged. As it lunged to bite, I shoved the shovel handle into its mouth pushing the handle to the back of the dog’s jaw horizontally, then grabbed it by the throat and pinned it to the wall at my eye-level. I bounced his head off the wall a few times till it stopped trying to bite.
The rottweiler got up and came at me. I dropped the German Shepard and faced the rottweiler. As the rottweiler reached its head in to bite, I side stepped and came down on its neck, pinning its head to the ground. It struggled to free itself. I controlled it by wrapping my legs around the hind part of the rottweiler. Then keeping its head in place with my guard arm pressed across the dog’s throat, I twisted the collar tighter. When the dog submitted, I used what was left of the lead to tie it up.
The German Shepard was gone. It left through the hole the dogs dug to get into the barn.
With one dog gone and the other secured, I went inside, called the police and an emergency veterinary service, then I filled gallon water jugs with hot water, got a blanket, went back to the barn, and wrapped the goat up. I stayed with the goat till the cops showed up three hours later.
The goat lived after the vet cleaned and stitched up over 75 puncture wounds.
The police found the other dog at its owner’s place after tracking it through the nearby field. The dogs were used to guard a meth lab until then. Both dogs got put down.
The second incident involved a Portuguese water dog / mastiff crossbreed. It was a mutt, a big mutt. My brother-in-law brought his dog, the aforementioned crossbreed, to my house while he was trying to get clean and sober, and put his dog in the garage. Previous interaction with the dog went smoothly. So, the dog was given a bed and food in the garage. After that though, he took possession of the garage.
Unfortunately, that was where the laundry was done. My 19 year old daughter went to do her laundry. The dog attacked. My daughter was pinned against the dryer.
I heard my daughter’s screams.
I went to the garage and came in behind the dog who was facing my daughter. I shouted. No impact. I boxed the dog on the side head it turned and came at me. Using my left hand, I slapped the dog across the head. Distraction. As it tried to bite my left hand I grabbed the dog by the throat with my right and pinned it against the refrigerator lifting so it was unable to touch the floor. The dog didn’t like it, and unlike the rottweiler in the previous incident, it had not been softened with a blow to the head with a shovel. It did not submit. So, I brought it down hard on the concrete, pinned its head, then scissored it from behind, then pushed my guard arm, across the dog’s throat just below the jaw making sure to press down and against the lower jaw with my left forearm. With my free right I used a hammer fist on its ears, nose, and eyes. The dog still didn’t submit and was trying to turn to bite. I tried to stretch the dog to limit its struggle. It still didn’t quit. So, I used my right ankle to crush his unneutered groin into sterility. Eventually the dog quit fighting and submitted. I let him up and he limped out the back door. My daughter took her laundry and left.
When my brother-in-law came home I told him the dog was no longer welcome. They left.
Dogs only have one business end, their mouth.
Dogs are faster than you. Never run.
If dogs bite high, they expose their throat. Crush the neck or throat just below the jaw and take them to the ground or wall. Get on top if possible to keep them from using their legs to pull free.
If dog bites low, come down hard around the neck at the base of the skull or just below the jaw. Push sideways a bit to off balance the dog and take it off its feet. Like before, don’t let them use their legs to pull free.
If a dog attacks, don’t try to grab the skin like some people do with kittens or puppies. Many dogs have loose skin or folds of skin. This allows them to turn and bite your hand if you grab skin. Push hard against bone and muscle.
Don’t engage their sides or back or tail till you’ve dealt with the head.
Knives don’t work well. They are too close-up and not flexible enough to immobilize the dog. While they will enable you to beat (kill or seriously injure) the dog eventually, my take is your own risk of injury goes up with a knife. If you swing and miss, the dog will more than likely get your arm or hand. This can cause you to lose the knife or lose the ability to use it.
If you are going to use a weapon other than a firearm, use items that keep distance or give the dog something to bite on other than you. That is much better.
Pepper spray or bear repellent is good. Probably the best. I don’t carry generally. It hasn’t always been a legal option. That leaves me with improvised weapons or my hands and legs.
I’ve used several improvised weapons other than the shovel. I used my bike several times and large sticks, or breaker-bars that I normally used for breaking concrete. I’ve never been tempted to use a knife.
Edit: I’ve trained to deal with knives presented by attackers but do not consider myself well trained in knife fighting. Like most things, I’m sure there are people who’ve put the time and effort into wielding a knife with skill enough to deal with a dog. I don’t put myself in that category. A dog seems trickier with regard to a knife than a person in many respects.
Also, as much as the events might seem grandiose, they are a bit sanitized and simplified e.g. the rottweiler did not drop with one hit; I hit him several times on the head and body and legs before either dog actually turned from attacking the goat. The answer was not intended to be a write-up for a Quentin Tarantino movie with gratuitous violence. Rather, it was intended to address how to defend against a dog attack without a knife when avoiding the fight was not an option from my perspective. It was very up-close and personal. After some thought it seemed like too much of a simplification. I remember thinking, This d**n dog isn’t flinching. How many times do I have to hit this f*****g dog before the goat dies?
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I would hope that the knife is both large and sharp. I would acknowledge that I am going to be bitten — several times — so I would try to take those bites in my non-dominant arm while stabbing the dog’s throat or sides of chest. Under no circumstances would I turn my back or try to run.
I once had an attacking dog biting down on the muzzle of my .357. The dog’s master did not call the dog off until I was half way through my trigger pull. Made for an interesting walk in the country.
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If it was necessary I would have to stab it. But I would rather use a gun. I feel a gun would kill them instantly in most cases. No suffering. Knives are not as accurate and the dog suffers. T
A lot of these dogs have been made to attack by their owners
In SC we have a lot of people who like to have dog fighting as a paid sport. The cops can’t keep up with it.
But regardless, if it is me or my dog who are attacked by a vicious dog, the dog loses.
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This is a hard question for me to answer. One sometimes dogs will come after you and sometimes they will attack you. Some dogs are very protective. Some dogs are maniacs all dogs can be very sweet. I don’t like the idea of killing a dog unless necessary. If you are going to kill a dog with a knife you need a knife that’s capable of doing the job. The way you do this is when the dog goes to bite you they will do one of two things they will either jump high or jump low if you want to kill the dog. Give the dog a Target to go after if your right handed you use your left forearm when the dog bites your forearm. Take the knife stabbing behind the windpipe and pull towards you you will effectively cut his windpipe and his throat. Rendering the dog incapable of life. You need a knife formidable enough to be able to do this a pocket knife won’t do. More specifically if it’s a police dog attacking you. You’re better off laying face down do your head and your arms and legs tucked in this doesn’t give the dog an area to bite you in. This is what they did in civil rights marches back in the day. If you want to stop the dog from biting in you pepper spray bleach wasp and bug spray an ammonia spray will stop a dog from attacking or coming after you. If you have a dog attacking you. You can be as prepared with pepper spray as you can with an effective knife. The best way to defend yourself against a dog if you’re actually fighting a dog is shove your hand down his throat. I’ll grab the dog by the head shoved it on the ground and punched it in the throat and had it stop attacking you at that point but most the time dogs are hard-headed. If a dog manages to piss me off. I’m no longer trying to fight the dog I’m trying to kill it. Luckily I have a fairly slow fuse but a bad bad temper. Most of the time you can avoid getting in that kind of situation. Most dogs aren’t going to run up and bite you. They might run up and bark and act aggressive but it’s in my experience mostly a show. I’m only have one dog run up to me and actually bite and it was a Doberman Pinscher trained attack dog. I grabbed him by his bottom jaw flipped him over and punch him in the throat. Rammed my arm so far down his throat he couldn’t close his mouth. At that point his owner grabbed him.
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Well once the dog latches onto mine it is going to hold on, then I stab it to death.
If it’s going for me I’d hope my dog will bite the dog to death or at least get it off of me so that the dog latches onto him, and not me, then I’d proceed to stab the dog to death like the first scenario.
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I would drop the knife and show the animal my open relaxed palms as I backed away. Holding a weapon shows aggression and will antagonize the animal. Open palms shows that you’re non threatening and willing to give comfort. NEVER put your hands over the dog’s head because the animal will think you’re prepared to strike.
A cheese burger will work much better than a knife!
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Was almost in this situation with a fucin stray Rottweiler, had 40 caliber, but he jacked burger king burgers in car seat
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I have had to defend our dogs from stray dogs on several occasions, while walking. I successfully do this without seriously injuring any of the animals by using pepper spray.
If I couldn’t retreat with my pet, from the attacking dog, even if it was in a neighbor’s house or car, and didn’t have a non-lethal option, then I would be forced to either restrain the other dog or kill it.
Most dogs can be successfully restrained by grabbing them by the scruff of the neck and lifting them. The skin is loose there and they generally won’t feel pain. If they are too big to lift, then several quick stabbing motions with a knife in the center mass will usually do the trick. However injuring or killing an animal is always a last resort. And only arming yourself with a knife, instead of having a non-lethal alternative isn’t a smart idea…
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I love all animals, and am vegetarian.
But if a dog attacked my boy, and there was a risk of him being seriously injured? I’d be putting that knife into the attacking dogs throat or eye.
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How big is the dog? do you have a stick? if so feed the stick to the dog and then kick it in the throat. no stick, jam your fist down its throat if its mouth is big enough. it will give up and it won’t be able to bite through your whole forearm. This works on full size attack dogs.
Remember the dog has few weapons other than its mouth and will attack mouth first. if you can jack it up by the throat you will show it who is boss. choke that motherfucker until it passes out and either clear the area or physically remove the dog or yourself.
BEtter yet, throw it a steak and in a calm voice say “that’s a good dog. who loves you? I do, that’s right!” because that’s probably the nicest treatment that dog has received lately and it will take a steak before your throat or even your arm as loong as you aren’t breathing.
Any raw cut of meant. toss it a beef heart and it will attack that thing and try to chew it while you sneak past or grab it by the legs and snap its collarbone leading to near instant death.
theyre just dogs. they are man’s best friend. treat them like your best friend and their aggression will wane.
if you have nothing, feed it a forearm, preferably wrapped in cowhide. while it chompos down, deliver a hammer fist to the neck right behind the skull. no more threat.
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You only have one choice and that is what ever you need to survive. A pit bull charged and got hold of my dog. Thankfully my dog is a trained security bBelgian malinois. My dog hold of his face so i slashed its eyes out with a key and then stamped its ribs in aiming to break them. It was later confirmed the injuries i inflicted killed it. I hate having to do what i did but i had no choice and would do it again.
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First you have to be brave and stay cool. Your knife blade has to be at least four inches. If you’re sure there is going to be a confrontation you take the attack to the dog. Offer it your forearm held sideways. When he clamps down keep pushing your arm and he’ll stay with it. Try to lift him up on his hind feet as this cuts his leg strength by half. Stab hard for his throat closer to the head and a bit towards underneath. Don’t use multiple stabs like on tv. Get the blade in good and keep pushing and twisting for as long as it takes. Your adrenaline has helped you up to this point. Very shortly the bites on your arm are going to cause the most horrible pain you have ever felt. Get them treated.
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I have years of self defense training , and for a combat situation you need combat tools that’s 1st, if you want to risk your life using pepper spray go ahead… but the only way to deal with a stray k9 is to get it right the 1st time… add a stick to your daily carry to make him bite into it first… if you think that getting robbed at gun point is more traumatic than getting attacked by one or two k9s obviously you haven’t been through it…. you’ve 10 times more chances to get mauled by a dog than robbed, especially now a days with ppl just setting them free for lack of money to buy dog food… a sick hungry k9 won’t go away waving some 20s at him… a human will take off with the money fast and bye….
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If all I had was a knife, I would stab the eyes. Not many creatures will continue an attack with a knife buried to the hilt in their eye socket.
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Just simply pray to Jesus that the dog stops. Whatever you ask in his name, he will give it to you. Then be prepared to be mauled to death. Amen.
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It depends on the dog…
Decades ago, I studied sentry dog destruction techniques taught to SAS and Spetsnaz operatives. A knife is not the best choice of weapon against a K9. You can kill a dog with a knife, sure, but generally it is a slow kill and they will be able to chomp the hell out of you before they bleed out.
Surprisingly, pepperspray is a far better weapon as dogs have mucous membranes all over their face and it is far more effective than against 2 legged opponents. I have used Mace against attacking dogs dozens of times and it has never failed to immediately stop the attack.
Second best weapon is a heavy bludgeon like a clubbed flashlight or a brass mallet. One strike to the head will drop them. I prefer Mace. Pepperspray wears off within an hour and they are fine.
Most carry knives are lockblades with blades 4″ or under in length, frequently composed of low quality steel with inferior grinds. It is very difficult to penetrate a canine cranium with a lockblade. Usually a hatchet, entrenching tool, or sharpened spade, but not a knife. Knife just doesn’t work. Dogs are tough.
Pepperspray is really the way to go, but if all you have is a pocketknife your best bet is to sacrifice your non-dominant arm, if you can, reinforce it by wrapping it with a jacket, then when the dog chomps your arm, stab it in the neck several times while kicking both knees until they break. Knees are the weakest point of a dog, but only while it is latched onto your arm and standing on two legs.
Buy pepperspray. A 0.75 oz cannister of Saber Red Gel will take up as much room as a knife and will work far better. Trust me on this.
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