If you are in a knife fight, should you attack first or try to wait for him to attack and then counter?
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If you are in a knife fight, should you attack first or try to wait for him to attack and then counter?
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It isn’t a movie. The best thing to do is avoid the situation. The second is to get the hell out of there. You are likely to be cut twenty or more times. if you wait to counter or attack first. Either way, there will be legal repercussions. Don’t get caught up in some mucho ego, bs that at best gets you charged with killing someone. If you must fight, try to attack in a way that counters any offensive action, and do it first.
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The first thing you should do in a knife fight is run away. Call it a tactical withdrawal if you have an excessive amount of pride / testosterone poisoning. The best weapon you can use to defend yourself against a knife attack is distance.
The second thing you should do is reevaluate your situational awareness practices and/or lifestyle choices to figure out how you let yourself get into a knife fight in the first place.
Knife fighting training breaks down into exactly two categories:
How to murder someone with a knife on the battlefield
Macho bullshit that will get you arrested or killed if you try to use it in real life
A knife is a really great offensive weapon for killing someone who doesn’t see you coming. It’s a really bad defensive weapon for protecting yourself against someone else armed with a knife.
If you are going to attack someone with a knife, you do it first, without warning or hesitation. A bull rush is very hard to defend against even for a skilled martial artist. The problem with that approach is that it’s murder, not self defense. Preemptive surprise attacks are great on a battlefield, or if you’re already doing life without parole. Any other situation, it’s not a great idea.
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Anything could happen in a knife fight… I used to knife spar (not real knives obviously) in an Escrima club last year and there were times where I got my partner first even though they initiated the attack. Could be because of timing or I was able to react to it quick enough to get a cut.
But to answer your question, I would probably be on the defensive and counter. Only because of a technique i like using called “defanging the snake” that is used in Escrima. It’s basically where you cut or hit your opponent’s weapon hand as they jab you with the weapon. Similar to a parry but instead you cut/hit the hand.
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First, I would run . Assuming that surviving is your number one priority . It is not easy to properly stab a target that’s legging it at the best of their ability. If retreat is impossible (and things like sticks are unavailable) I would go for kicks… even if I had a knife of my own. Getting 20 stab wounds in the gut is by no means a desirable outcome. So you might want to do everything to prevent that. Which means being out of the knife range at all times .
Now, if surviving isn’t a priority then you should attack first because a suicidal guy with a knife can’t be effectively countered in principle in such a context. True for any “kamikaze” attack – no matter how skilled you may be it is extraordinarily difficult to prevent a suicidal attacker from doing a lot of damage. Whatever you do to a suicidal attacker he’d have sufficient time to take the other guy with him – people don’t just drop instantly even after receiving lethal levels of damage. We know this from recorded history, including suicidal attackers with bladed weapons which had been pretty common back in the day in places like India, Middle East and Northern Africa. Even if such attackers had 0 training professional warriors had to train extensively on how to specifically defend themselves from such suicidal attacks. Which is a lot different from regular combat. And even then we know of instances recorded in memoirs and military archives when a suicide attacker with a sword could manage to take out half dozen plus guys… guys armed with firearms, sometimes of a repeating kind.
Contrary to what Hollywood/YouTube knife “gurus” would tell you there aren’t any effective anti-knife techniques which don’t involve a firearm . Or at least a proper baseball bat, but even with a bat it is very risky to engage someone with a knife. What Hollywood/YouTube knife “gurus” show you is people fencing with knives, which is just silly. A knife fight isn’t a fencing bout, well, because a knife isn’t a rapier – knives aren’t for fencing (and a backstreet alley isn’t a fencing rink). Knives are for making 20 holes in the other guy’s gut in 1-2 seconds in close melee/grappling range . Or Hollywood shows people trying to grab hold of the hand/arm of another guy in which he is holding the knife (that they conveniently present), which is useless. It takes a fraction of a second to switch hands with a knife, which every knife brawler practices every day to do… and another second to make a dozen holes in your gut while you are grabbing the other hand for some reason. And most certainly you aren’t kicking a knife out of the other guys hand unless you are Bruce Lee or something… they won’t present it as a stationary target to get kicked. And legs are slow compared to arms.
You don’t want to close in melee with someone who has a lethal weapon, which a knife is, under any circumstances … it is not conducive to good health and longevity. I’d say that if you do it the chances of you getting a blade in your gut would be like 90%. Or at the least you’d have to rely purely on luck to not get a blade in your gut.
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Clearly you should use your cell phone to contact the police, and let armed professionals handle the situation, when they arrive 40 minutes later, at the scene of your murder, to collect evidence.
That is what some would suggest is the proper course of action. But remember, in a deadly force situation, where seconds count, the police are only minutes or hours away.
I obviously cannot give meaningful advice on situations that haven’t occurred yet, to someone I have never met of unknown aptitude and training, who lives I know not where. Furthermore, I am not a martial arts instructor of any kind, and have no significant training in this respect…certainly no one ever trained me in knife fighting (I was in the Navy, not the Marines, and an Electrician on a submarine, not a Navy Seal). The one time I was ever in a fight in which knives were drawn, I didn’t attack first ..I difused the situation by talking with the individual, and we both walked away without blood being spilled, thanks be to God.
That being said ..
I believe that when threatened with a knife, my first move would not be to wait for them to attack. Nor would I attack with a knife first. No, when theatened with a knife, if possible and with due consideration of the situation and possible consequences, I would draw my firearm and be prepared to use it if necessary. (Note, I am old, and not able to run away fast … but that is not to say that I wouldn’t try to move to put objects and / or distance bet…
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I would never attack first by choice. Because its usually a mistake. If they wait they are watching and studying you. As you should them
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If you have these choices available, then you should exit the situation.
Knife fights typically cause injuries that are worse than most gun fights.
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You always let the attacker swing first and then you swiftly disarm them. It is a very easy technique that almost anyone can perform with very little training, as all of the below real-life videos of actual knife fights make clear. This is why knife crime is very rare in the US. #2ManyNinjas
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you should attack first. when you do that, you have the initiative and you’re making your opponent react to you. keep attacking, the more your opponent has to react, the less time he has to think, the less time he has to think, the more likely he’s gonna make a mistake. this is not foolproof. your opponent could be more skilled and know how to counter this and take the initiative himself or he could just get lucky. don’t go in without a care in the world either. be aware of what your opponent is doing. in a knife fight, blocks and parries are not effective. when you have the initiative, you’re controlling where the fight is going, which gives you an advantage. this is all assuming things have escalated to the point of a knife fight. I’m not condoning going out and starting them. if you’re that worried about it, you should seek formal training.
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